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from Spain

Produced by Radio La Benevolencija HTF © 2016-2018
Partner in Spain: Bernó Strategies

Directed and Edited by: José Heredia
Production: Georgeta Pintilie 
Production coordinator in Spain: José Heredia 

José Heredia

Jose Heredia

LA GRAN REDADA

AN EXTERMINATION ATTEMPT CENTURIES BEFORE SAMUDARIPEN

The Spanish Roma population did not suffer the Samudaripen as Spain didn’t participate in World War II. But, another historical event, The Great Raid in 1749 known as La Gran Redada de Gitanos, left lasting impact on the Roma communities of Spain. Persecution of the Roma, as well as Roma’s contribution to the society, are unknown to the majority as the history of Spanish Roma is not included in general education. In what way is antigypsyism today in Spain linked to the past?

FLAMENCO

STRUGGLING AGAINST CULTURAL APPROPRIATION

The episode explores the origin and the future of Flamenco – music style developed and cherished by the Spanish Roma. Once, Flamenco was a way of Roma resistance, and a carrier of the historical narrative and the Roma identity. But who “owns” Flamenco today, when Flamenco is a cultural symbol and identity of the entire Andalusia? Where is a thin line between appropriation of the Roma culture, and appreciation and recognition of the Roma contribution to the mainstream culture?

Subtitles and Language settings: click [CC] to choose available subtitles.
This is a version with English graphics. Click here for version in Romani.

In this video, in order of appearance: 

Nicolás Jiménez, Sociologist, Activist; Manuel Martínez, Historian; Silvia Agüero, Activist; Andrea Ibáñez, Economist, Activist;

Subtitles and Language settings: click [CC] to choose available subtitles.
This is a version with English graphics. Click here for version in Romani.

In this video, in order of appearance: 

Iván Periáñez, Anthropology lecturer University of Seville; Antonio Ortega, Writer, Flamenco Historian; Emilio Vizarraga, Activist;

Audio version:

Music: White Atlantis by Sergey Cheremisinov, Night II by Swelling, and some excerpts from the music of Barcelona Gipsy BalKan Orchestra

Developed by Miško Stanišić

Discuss, Investigate, Learn

Each episode addresses several of the following 12 themes:
1. LIFE BEFORE WORLD WAR II | 2. PERSECUTION | 3. RESISTANCE | 4. SURVIVING | 5. LASTING IMPRINTS | 6. RECOGNITION | 7. REMEMBRANCE | 8. KNOWLEDGE, AWARENESS AND EDUCATION | 9. CONTINUITY OF DISCRIMINATION | 10. CHALLENGES TODAY | 11. SHARED HISTORY AND ROMA IDENTITY | 12. ROMA AND SINTI VOICES | 

Analyze each episode using this list of themes. Research further. Discuss your findings and opinions. Share your thoughts. Promote your opinions on social media. Read more about how to use this material in the classroom, in public debates, for awareness campaigns and activism, or in the Roma-run media on the page dedicated to Tajsa.eu Educational Resources:

EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES

Highlighted Keywords

Think and Reflect

Some of the most significant statements by the interviewees, the “keywords”, are selected for further discussion and examination. The quotes are presented together with the respective screenshots from the video. Each quote is related to one of the 12 themes (this is marked above each screenshot). Review and discuss the selected quotes. You might also:

Find the selected quote in the video. Listen again to the whole conversation.
Analyze what can we learn from the selected quote.
If it is a testimony/personal experience: when and where did it happen? Who were the protagonists? Describe what happened.
Do you have any similar personal experiences, or other knowledge that helps you understand the described event/experience better?
Why, in your opinion, is the selected quote related to that particular theme. Could it also be related to some of the other proposed themes? Explain.
Watch the video again and find other significant quotes or other moments that made impression on you. Explain why did you choose it, and how did you understand it.
Relate the quote you have chosen with one of the 13 themes. Explain.

Theme:

Recognition 

Theme:

Persecution 

Theme:

Knowledge, Awareness and Education

Theme:

Resistance

From video 1:
LA GRAN REDADA

I think it’s necessary that spain creates a Commission of Truth. We have to revise history and the authorities and everyone who has benefitted from ethnic exclusion must issue apologies, and must start a policy of restorative justice to compensate for the harm that has been done to us in the last 600 years.

Nicolás Jiménez, Sociologist, Activist;

From video 1:
LA GRAN REDADA

The goal was to separate men from women. What happened to the children? If there was a project of biological extermination, there was also a project of child acculturation. They fixed a minimum age, 7 years, so all those children 7 years old and older followed the destiny of men.

Manuel Martínez, Historian;

From video 1:
LA GRAN REDADA

 First time I heard about the Big Raid was when I started working at the Ethnological Museum of Roma Women. Prior to that, neither at school nor at high school or the University was there even a comment about Roma history. It was a taboo issue. That’s when I understood how, for so many centuries, the experience of being careful with non-Roma has been transmitted. 

Andrea Ibáñez, Economist, Activist;

From video 1:
LA GRAN REDADA

During Samudaripen, in concentration camp more than 300 children were born. That is survival. Not so long ago, in European countries, we were still been sterilized. Wherever having a little Roma kid in your womb is considered being “dangerous to society”, then, becoming pregnant and having lots of children is a rebellion!

Silvia Agüero, Activist;

Theme:

Shared History and Roma Identity

Theme:

Lasting Imprints

Theme:

Continuity of Discrimination

From video 2:
FLAMENCO

Of course, flamenco was a way of resistance for us, we can activate a knowledge, a legacy we have to improve the conditions of our existence. Now we have other possibilities. Luckily we’re articulating, from different sensibilities, from different trainings, from different locations, those things that unite us Spanish roma, which are our ways of expression, and that’s not by chance but because they tell our pains, our anguishes, they alert us in our collective memory of what has happened to us and situate us in the world.

Iván Periáñez, Anthropology lecturer University of Seville;

From video 2:
FLAMENCO

It’s obvious that the Big Raid left a drastic footprint in Spanish Roma culture, but it also left a creative footprint. Roma people have always been the most intelligent to express, with much subtlety, their sufferings, because most of the lyrics that appeared afterwards (in Flamenco music), those that speak about the mines, the prisons, the ships, the dockyards, make direct reference to that tragedy for the Roma people (the Big Raid).

Antonio Ortega, Writer, Flamenco Historian;

From video 2:
FLAMENCO

Flamenco is a part of the Andalusian culture, Poligono Sur is contributing to the Andalusian culture much more than it receives, because the stigma about this neighborhood is linked to marginalization, but nobody recognizes Poligono Sur as a place where Andalusian identity is being constructed constantly.

Emilio Vizarraga, Activist;

EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES

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